{"id":4392,"date":"2018-01-12T21:29:10","date_gmt":"2018-01-12T21:29:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/?p=4392"},"modified":"2018-01-13T14:34:44","modified_gmt":"2018-01-13T14:34:44","slug":"science-vs-spirit-proof-vs-proof","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/es\/2018\/01\/12\/science-vs-spirit-proof-vs-proof\/","title":{"rendered":"Science AND Spirit &#8211; Proof vs Proof"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4>&#8220;Did you call Abuela to check in on her?&#8221; \u00a0I asked my father on New Year&#8217;s Eve,\u00a01500 miles away from where she lived. \u00a0My father asked why?<\/h4>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4412\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4412\" style=\"width: 101px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4412\" src=\"http:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2011-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"101\" height=\"134\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2011-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2011-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2011-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2011-9x12.jpg 9w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 101px) 100vw, 101px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4412\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Grandma Ida &amp; Grandpa Abe<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h4>I had felt a sharp pain in my heart as if someone just stabbed it and then nothing. \u00a0I was 10 years old and didn&#8217;t know why I thought of my grandmother in that moment or how to articulate the &#8220;why,&#8221; but I would learn more about it when a similar event would happen 35 years later.<\/h4>\n<h4>My \u00a0father never called that night, but he did the next morning, only to find out my grandmother had a heart attack the moment I was feeling it and died instantly.<\/h4>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4431\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4431\" style=\"width: 188px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4431\" src=\"http:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/mom-and-dad-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"188\" height=\"141\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/mom-and-dad-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/mom-and-dad-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/mom-and-dad-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/mom-and-dad.jpg 900w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/mom-and-dad-16x12.jpg 16w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 188px) 100vw, 188px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4431\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mom &amp; Dad<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h4>How do I even begin to tell him what I felt. \u00a0My father was a judge, a lawyer, a former cop and Cuban on top of everything else. He was my rock and my foundation for everything tangible. \u00a0He challenged me to seek the truth and research everything before weighing my decision. \u00a0Use logic, not something you cannot see or hold. \u00a0Facts and evidence you can touch. \u00a0Wasn&#8217;t what I said evidence? Wasn&#8217;t it enough I saw it and said something as it was happening, tangible? I had no way of articulating all of this at age 10 and no one to talk to in order to help my argument, so I shut down.<\/h4>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4415\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4415\" style=\"width: 128px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4415\" src=\"http:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_3509-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"128\" height=\"171\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_3509-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_3509-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_3509-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_3509-9x12.jpg 9w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 128px) 100vw, 128px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4415\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Not 10, maybe 6 here.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4413 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2368-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"182\" height=\"137\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2368-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2368-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2368-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2368-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_2368-16x12.jpg 16w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 182px) 100vw, 182px\" \/>It wouldn&#8217;t be long before I needed to face certain facts that history would repeat itself. \u00a0Not only did I marry someone like my father (I know, clich\u00e9), but after our <a href=\"http:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/es\/buy37seconds\/\">story<\/a> unfolded, I was researching and asking every scientist, therapist and expert I came across to debunk this &#8220;spiritual&#8221; stuff and give me something more logical. \u00a0And to top it all off, \u00a0I couldn&#8217;t get far enough away from it, when new unexplained phenomena would hit me, causing the desperate\u00a0need to prove it was just my imagination.<\/h4>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4><\/h4>\n<h4><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4423 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/collage-steph-speaking-science-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"275\" height=\"367\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/collage-steph-speaking-science-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/collage-steph-speaking-science-768x1025.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/collage-steph-speaking-science-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/collage-steph-speaking-science-9x12.jpg 9w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/collage-steph-speaking-science.jpg 1655w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px\" \/><\/h4>\n<h4>What became evident to me is every time I saw a stranger, I could see someone they loved who had passed beside them. \u00a0And then I would describe an incident in their history with that spirit. \u00a0They would always ask, &#8220;how are you seeing this?&#8221; \u00a0Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong, it does not happen all the time and I have ZERO idea when it will happen, but when it does, it makes me realize, I will never \u00a0understand HOW it is I am seeing what I am seeing. \u00a0But that doesn&#8217;t stop me from trying to figure out what seems to be a new &#8220;party trick.&#8221;<\/h4>\n<h4>I still refused to believe it, even after all of the drama unfolding in my life. \u00a0Even when I was at one of my BFF&#8217;s sister&#8217;s funeral and I saw her sister and her mother (who had passed as well) right next to her as she was eulogizing her. I thought &#8220;wishful thinking.&#8221; \u00a0Even when I was at a concert and I had a vision and walked up to a man I had never seen before and asked &#8220;why did you try to commit suicide?&#8221; and he fell to the floor crying, admitting he jumped in front of a train. \u00a0And even when I walked up to a nail technician I had never met in Las Vegas and said &#8220;I am so sorry you just lost your best friend,&#8221; she asked &#8220;You see Gloria?&#8221; \u00a0How I knew it was a friend and not an aunt, how I knew this man attempted suicide or how I see what I can see, I did not know. All the while trying to get ahead of this information, searching for answers explaining what I see, I start feeling things physically.<\/h4>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4432 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/steph-looking-up-no-makeup-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"167\" height=\"223\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/steph-looking-up-no-makeup-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/steph-looking-up-no-makeup-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/steph-looking-up-no-makeup-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/steph-looking-up-no-makeup-9x12.jpg 9w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 167px) 100vw, 167px\" \/><\/p>\n<h4>Back to the 35 years later comment. I was in a pitch meeting for a TV show with a prominent show-runner. \u00a0I had never met her before. We have a mutual friend who introduced us and the woman who runs this company came up to me and says &#8220;I think your story is fascinating, but I am a skeptical person. Not that I don&#8217;t believe people have a strong intuition, but it has never happened to me.&#8221; \u00a0I said &#8220;Cool, I am not here to prove anything to you, I&#8217;m just here to pitch a show.&#8221; \u00a0We sat at the table with 10 of her employees and I began the pitch. \u00a0In the middle of the meeting, I start feeling like I am going to have a heart attack. \u00a0And I KNOW it isn&#8217;t mine. \u00a0I only have one choice- I need to speak up. But how? If I say something, I am the crazy person in the room. I cannot breathe, it is so strong and they are noticing me uncomfortable. \u00a0I stop the meeting and say &#8220;I am so sorry, someone is trying to tell me something.&#8221; \u00a0INSERT: CRAZY PERSON TALKING HERE. \u00a0 &#8220;Does someone in this room have a male family member who just had a heart attack?&#8221; My friend is panicking. \u00a0Everyone stops.<\/h4>\n<h4>They all say NO. \u00a0The owner says &#8220;My mother had a heart attack years ago, but she is ok now.&#8221; \u00a0As she is talking, the pain is getting stronger (in hindsight, I will learn when the feelings enhance when someone is speaking to me, the message would be for that person). I say &#8220;That&#8217;s not it, but I have acknowledged it, so let&#8217;s move on.&#8221;<\/h4>\n<h4>Awkward silence and I continued the pitch.<\/h4>\n<h4>When I left the building, it released. \u00a0My friend says &#8220;What&#8217;s with the theatrics?&#8221; I tell her, I have no idea, but I was in pain. \u00a0I was sure I just blew the pitch.<\/h4>\n<h4>Four days later, we get a call. \u00a0My friend tells me &#8220;Are you sitting down? They figured out what the heart attack was from?&#8221; \u00a0I listen. &#8220;Turns out, boss lady after the meeting, received a call from her sister in New York. Her father had a heart attack the moment you were feeling it.&#8221; \u00a0The father would be fine and this woman doesn&#8217;t want to talk about it again, EVER. \u00a0They bought the pitch and I threw up. (Not in that order).<\/h4>\n<h4>I call Jonathan to tell him what transpired and said &#8220;Can you believe it?&#8221;<\/h4>\n<h4><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4408 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_0278-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"190\" height=\"107\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_0278-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_0278-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_0278.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_0278-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/IMG_0278-18x10.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 190px) 100vw, 190px\" \/>Jonathan said &#8220;Yes, I believe it and I have accepted it. You need to stop looking for the how this is happening and just accept it because you will drive yourself crazy. There was a mathematician I know of who literally drove himself into an asylum because he couldn&#8217;t find the answer to an equation.&#8221;<\/h4>\n<h4>The science versus spirit conversation has been going on since the beginning of time. \u00a0At some point one chooses a side or spends the rest of their lives questioning the very foundation on which they stand. Which is everyone&#8217;s right. I did a lot of soul-searching and have chosen my side, as you can see from the recent\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.today.com\/video\/meet-the-mom-who-predicted-her-own-death-and-lived-to-tell-about-it-1122421315876\">Megyn Kelly Today<\/a> show clip here. I will never stop asking questions, but there is no going back.<\/h4>\n<h4>I am not asking any of you to accept it. \u00a0It&#8217;s taken me a long time to &#8220;just&#8221; accept it and all that comes with it. \u00a0All I am asking for you to do, is research it and listen to all of the facts, before you dismiss it.<\/h4>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4426\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4426\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4426 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/family-spirit-300x219.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"219\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/family-spirit-300x219.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/family-spirit-768x561.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/family-spirit-1024x748.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/family-spirit-600x438.jpg 600w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/family-spirit-16x12.jpg 16w, https:\/\/stephaniearnold.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/family-spirit.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4426\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lori Allen Photography<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Did you call Abuela to check in on her?&#8221; \u00a0I asked my father on New Year&#8217;s Eve,\u00a01500 miles away from where she lived. \u00a0My father asked why? 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